Benchmarking Coding Agents on New vs Legacy Codebases — Denys Linkov, Wisedocs

[music] It's not just my AI pipeline that's on fire, but also my PowerPoint. So, it's 2025. Uh, we're scaling as a business and things are going poorly. We're adding too many customers. We're not getting the throughput we need and we need to improve our underlying technology. And there's three main issues that we're facing. The first one is that we're too slow to meet customer demand. The second one is that this AI pipeline that we've built is too complicated to update. And the third one is because it's a legacy codebase or actually more than 10 repos, nobody actually wants to touch the code. It's not a fun experience. So we made this decision to refactor over the course of 6 months. And the real question for this talk today was this the right move to do. So I'll spend this time answering this question, but let's start off with the use case. So the company I work at, Wise Docs, processes complex medical claims, which are PDFs that are more than 10,000 pages in size. Some of these files are bigger than video files. So it's a pretty complex application and because of this, it's actually non-trivial to scale the different parts. So we're going to talk about the pipeline today, which has a number of ML models. So I'll divide this talk into a number of chapters. We'll start off with the first one, which is the concept of tech debt. So I think we all have this feeling universally if we've been developers for a while that we all write bad code. The question is do we do this intentionally or not? If I look back to some of the earliest code I used to write uh it was bad. This was more than 15 years ago. I tried to print an image of this character from a video game and I didn't understand that you can't uh system.out.print line in Java to render something on the screen. So hopefully I've come uh further from that point in time. But there's these moments where we all know that we've written bad code before. Now, if we think about technical debt as financial debt, it compounds in mysterious and sometimes unexpected ways. But you should think about it in a rigorous format as well. For us to achieve some kind of ROI by taking on technical debt such as building a feature or getting new customers, we want to make sure that the ROI makes sense. If we introduce additional complexity into our codebase, we can very quickly outrun the ROI we've generated. Now, with AI engineering, you've probably seen a number of different stories that have come out to showcase the progress that's been made. These are two case studies from Anthropic, one from Spotify and the other from Stripe, talking about the immense progress that they've made both in shipping velocity and also the ability to refactor code. So, at this point in time, writing code or making changes is something that teams are doing faster and faster. Now, I'll pause here. Who here thinks that products have gotten better in the past 20 years? Technical products want to raise their hand. I hope everybody, right? Phones are pretty cool. About five years, a past year. Okay, so the challenge is that we're going faster and faster through the technology life cycle, but we've lost something. The the product focused on customers in some way has degraded. The maintainability of the code and the reliability has degraded. You can see some of the up times here from two leading companies. I've blurred out their names for for it. It doesn't actually matter who they are, but we are below a 39 or even 49 reliability. So even though we're shipping faster and faster, the code quality and the product quality has not necessarily gone up. So let's talk about the refactor that we did. So we started this refactor with actual code implementation in April and did some pre-work earlier. So I'll go through five different tasks that we did and share some of the the findings that we had before and after especially with as new models have come out. So we spent around two months evaluating orchestrators for our AI pipeline. We looked at five open source projects and we wanted to benchmark and see how effective they were for our use case and we started this off before deep research came out as part of Google and open AI so that web search capability to do a comprehensive analysis was still not there. Now, after we actually gathered these requirements, we built out proof of concepts with a team of three to make sure that we actually got the right results. Now, I'm pretty confident we could do this 90% faster now with the tooling that we have. Before, we would manually go through, use a little bit of AI, but put everything into a Confluence dock and we'd evaluate across 17 different criteria that we came up with. Nowadays, we could build a much more agentic workflow to do that. starting off with deep research uh making sure that we match that against the problem statements that we have creating sub agents for each of these criteria and uh products and then finally building PC's and evaluating so things have changed in the past year and a half where we could actually go much much faster but we still have to maintain that same set of quality because it's very easy to undergo AI psychosis where you look at a deep research report that's 20 pages long and you say wow this looks good and then those features don't actually exist in the product and you've set yourself back. Now after we've done the initial uh orchestration research and model serving research, we went into actually committing code. This is just a example of what happened when we were experimenting. I was doing some initial research with temporal and committed some activities in workflow code to make sure that we can actually replicate what we have in the legacy codebase. So then I did what we wanted to do over a number of iterations and at the time gave it to 03 to actually try to implement this code and it did it much faster than I would be. This refactor took uh 3 hours of back and forth chatting within cursor but it made 10 major mistakes. So at the time when we were going through this refactor coding was getting better and better but it still hadn't reached the point of where it is now. And it was still a very manual process where you had to intervene and actually guide the model and manually edit or delete code. Now I reran these benchmarks on some some modern models. So we have sonnet 4.6 and opus 4.8 and things are much faster. Uh sonnet 4.6 with one additional iteration was able to solve the task and with opus it was basically able to oneshot this problem. So models are getting significantly better along with harnesses. And the interesting part here as well is that the way that the models interacted has changed substantially as well. Before with 03 there weren't substantial tool calls on certain categories. Uh and then as we moved into sonnet 4.6 and opus we see now that in modern harnesses we get sub aents we get some of those plan calls we get uh different shell commands and we get different verifications. And overall this process even though the model execution was a little bit more expensive it was a lot less manual. So we could actually accomplish a lot more. So if I was rebuilding the same task that I had for for this refactor, it would take around 1/5 of the time to accomplish which is pretty good progress. So I think all of us realize a scenario that models are substantially better now than they were before. Now this is really important because it shapes the way we think about the software development life cycle. We think about 2025 and the types of work that we were doing. We were making some small changes. We would give specific code snippets to models. We were just starting to get into this agentic framework uh of the type of work we can do. And now if we provide a a well- constructed spec to a model, it could generally execute it at a very very high uh capability level. And we can see this both in anecdotal experiences as well as some of the thought leadership that has been coming out of the big labs that this image is one from anthropic. Let me ask the group a question. Who here has kicked off an agent and realized that either the prompt, the plan, or the requirements were incomplete or missing? A lot of people. Yeah, it's it's very frustrating, right? You you're like, "Okay, I'm ready to go. It's 11:00 p.m. or 5:00 p.m. I'm going to set off an agent and then come back." And then you realize there is a there's a critical flaw. Now, the reason I bring this up is it's very important to have a good mental model in understanding how accurate models can be in accomplishing tasks. Who here has seen this meter graph before? like decent number of people. So this is pretty common on actually mapping how much time models can complete tasks of certain categories for so the idea being that as models get better and better they can do longer running tasks. Now typically this graph is shared with the 50% accuracy rate but I think it's much better to actually look at the 80% accuracy rate or higher. And you can see there you can still see a similar exponential trend but we're no longer claiming that models can accomplish tasks that would take a human 18 plus hours. Now, I actually think it's much better to measure the accuracy at 90 or 99% because this is where the mental model is most efficient. You construct a plan, you create a spec, [snorts] you hand it off to an agent, and you're pretty sure that it'll get things done, right? You don't want to be creating a plan or a spec and then have a 50/50 chance of coming back and knowing that you wasted compute and your attention span. Now, if you're kicking off a process that is going to take an hour and it has a 50% chance of completing, there's a very high chance you just wasted that hour and you could have been doing something different. Now, if we think about a broader evaluation, so Meter does have some more information about their frontier models. So, this is one for for Mythos preview that they did roughly a month ago. And you can see here that generally the success rate starts to decline significantly at that 4hour mark. But even before then at the 15 second mark or even before the 15 minute mark there are certain tasks that mythos uh in in all its glory cannot complete uh effectively and consistently. So we're making rapid progress in in the AI model space but we're still not there where you can just kick off an agent and have something be completed reliably. So again this is really important for your software engineering teams and for you as an IC to understand what is your mental model and how are you going to contribute to that. Now I think what's really important is I think you've been hearing this throughout this conference is that there are a number of different frameworks and primitives that you need to have implemented in order to have good agentic development and this is no different from from what we found as we were continuing to mature as an organization and going through our refactor. These are the things that made sure that we can implement uh the solutions effectively and not waste our time just running doom loops with models. So let's go into chapter three. Let's talk about the refactor itself and some of the productivity gains that we saw. So the core idea is that we had these 10 repositories. We put them into a monor repo and we wanted to build additional features on top of it. So this is this is the result. Uh the previous repos had been around for more than six years and you can see the progress that was being made. It was pretty slow. Part of it was because of the tech debt that was taken on. Other parts were because we didn't have AI coding tools. And you can see that within the first 6 months of the rebuild when we got to par that we had before that steepness of that curve is immense and it didn't slow down after we we kept shipping. So after that that dotted line in the middle there we kept adding new and new uh features into the repository and we shipped a lot faster both in terms of the amount of code even though that's not a great metric but also the commit rate that we had among developers. And we actually saw that a lot more developers actually joined in uh into the contributions. So this is a log graph on the commits that we had from the repository initially. Uh and then we slowly onboarded more and more people and we had fewer commits because it's much easier to commit code when you're just refactoring and replicating something. But we still kept up that velocity as we were adding product features towards the end. And now almost every developer within the company is committing to this new monor repo even though it might not be their area of expertise but they might need to make changes to schemas uh API calls and other parts of the stack. So let's go on to chapter four. Can a modern LLM zero shot this problem? Can I say hey amazing LM go refactor this codebase. So I ran this experiment uh with GPT 5.5 extra high and I gave it this goal uh giving some of the names of the repositories with the underlying models and other components and it completed its goal in in 10 minutes and 22 seconds. Now it only wrote 2,000 lines of code which was a little bit fishy. So I I dug deeper um and it actually just implemented a bunch of scaffolding and didn't implement the models. So you can see here I did not add a raiseer deployment or bootstrap command yet. Right. So, we're still not there where models can self validate and just oneshot these kinds of problems, but we're getting close. I think in in six months, we'll get to the point that we can complete pretty substantial refactors as we saw in the in the Stripe example consistently across the board. So, we get to the core question. Was this refactor worthwhile? Should we have waited a year to do this refactor as models and harnesses continue to get better, or did it make sense to do it at the time? Now I'll say the the other side of the argument, right? Things are getting substantially better. Models are getting better. They can call tools better. We have a lot more infrastructure like sandboxes and monitoring frameworks in order for us to actually understand what's happening uh under the hood with these models. So taking on technical debt and refactoring later is getting exponentially easier uh as the days go by. Now the problem is that a lot of times when when you build a lot of code and you do this kind of development in an a AI native world it starts looking like some of the legacy code we've we've seen in the past. There's a lot of code written it's written with low performance or quality and the broader problem is people don't actually understand what's happening there. So if you have some issues within the codebase or you want to adjust based on customer requirements it's actually much harder to do so. So you do have to make sure that there are appropriate guardrails whether or not you do a full refactor or only a partial one. So if you ask me was it worthwhile I'd say yes. Uh we had built out the patterns that we had earlier with the number of different repos in order to match customer requirements and demands. Uh it took an amount of time but we ultimately achieved the goals uh of the business. Then we came back and re refactored and we were able to accelerate. uh we were able to actually reduce the amount of time the pipeline took. We were able to reduce the costs. We could support larger files and now we can ship features that would take multiple months in under a week. So the monor repo refactor the cleanup was worthwhile and we have some of the productivity metrics we saw there. The other part is that beyond just shipping velocity developers actually want to work in this codebase. So everybody comes along and says hey can I work in this codebase? It's much cleaner compared to the other ones. uh can we actually contribute in a way that makes sense and a lot of the patterns we have adopted here have spread to other repos within the company now whether or not you refactor uh the AI delivery system is is a layered approach uh you can isolate different parts of your codebase to avoid a full refactor but there's so many components that you need to keep in mind and hopefully throughout this conference you've heard more details about this but I really encourage everybody to think about uh the the business value of delivering a big refactor and the trade-offs of doing it now versus in the future. So, models will continue to get better. Uh, but sometimes it's good to pause, build a monor repo, and forge ahead. So, thank you everybody. Uh, happy to take any questions. [applause] >> Yeah. So the question was before we had multiple repos and did we move into monor repo? Yes. Uh we did that. One of the things we found now is that models are much better at navigating multiple repos. So if you put it into a higher level folder, right, they could navigate the the file directory. But for doing that endto-end testing and verification and deployment, it's still much harder to do with multiple repos. Uh and if you're building a sandbox environment to run sort of a full AI factory, it's it also takes more time to clone repos and get everything set up. Yeah. >> Yeah. So the question was uh when we defined certain features and requirements did we go back and check them and make changes uh as well as sort of the guard rails framework. Uh we did I think we got uh 15 out of 17 requirements right when we were going ahead with the refactor. Um and some of the processes that we added for the actual AI engineering verification that evolved over time. So for example when we started plan mode was just barely coming into cloud code and didn't exist in cursor but we adopted it as part of our development life cycle. >> Yep. >> So our PR reviews were all all human PR reviews during that refactor. Uh we did some local checks where we ran skills to say, "Hey, review this code. Make sure that it's good." And they're continuing to get more autonomous as time goes on. But at that point, PRs were a really good way for us to build context uh for that repo as we only had a few developers working on it. And we wanted to make sure people understood what had gone into the refactor. >> Yep. >> What's the number one factor you think six months after? Um in terms of factors I think that the complexity of the task you can give to a model uh is going to be different and many more companies will have more scaffolding in terms of actually doing a refactor. So for example when I showed the the life cycle of doing the research the PC work um validating the code quality checking hidden assumptions like you you thought an open source library had this feature but it was actually in uh a beta for example. I think that is going to be much much faster on top of sort of the standard refactoring of hey here's a file rewrite it to to match this uh set of requirements. Right? Great. Thank you everybody. Have a great rest of the conference. >> [music]